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Killary! A compilation of who this woman is….

Hillary+Clinton+caricature+webThis pig hag stayed with a man who sexually abuses women, rapes them, has affairs, etc. and she attacks the women and covers up for her perverted husband their whole marriage and then claims to be for women’s rights. She is a complete fraud and manipulator. She is only for anything that benefits her and her agenda for control and profit. She is a killer, a liar and a fraud.
Wife of an impeached President. Failed Secretary of State. All around ornery drunken old lady who verbally abused the White House staff. Plus of course, a LIAR.
She was fired from her position in the House Judiciary Committee’s impeachment inquiry into
 Watergate for lying and unethical behavior. FAILED to pass the bar exam and then married Bill and moved to Arkansas.
Let’s not forget the “Whitewater”, “Travelgate”, “Filegate”, and “Chinagate”…. all scandals the Clinton’s masterminded that ruined people lives and even got some murdered.
I’ll skip over the Bill Clinton presidential years and his subsequent IMPEACHMENT and scandalous infidelities which any sane woman would have divorced him for. But let’s face it, Hillary married into power. In a nation with more than 150 million women, it ought to be possible to find a president who got there on her own merits and not owing everything you have to your husband.
Other than being an elderly drunken crone, Hillary really has no accomplishments as her time as a slacker senator in New York either. It only proved that her success was accomplished by just showing up.
And her infamous “we’re broke” claim. Okay, there are dozens of ridiculously-talented, hard-working people who’ll never set foot in a mansion… but Hillary buys two and weeps. Estimated between $25 and $50 million, all from speeches and ghostwritten books, her personal wealth is arguably her only accomplishment.
Before there was Brian Williams, there was Hillary. She infamously claimed in 2008 that she landed under “sniper fire” in Bosnia, which was refuted by video evidence of the incident. However, that is not the first time that she has been caught telling untruths. In 1995, she claimed that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the first person to reach Mount Everest’s summit. However, he did not do so until 6 years after Clinton was born, making it unlikely that her mother would be familiar with him at the time.
“Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs.” ~Hillary, June 2014
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But there is no bigger scandal than the one which occurred during Hillary’s time as Secretary of State. On September 11, 2012, Islamic radicals attacked the American embassy in Benghazi, Libya, killing Ambassador Christopher Stevens and Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith. Stevens was the first US Ambassador killed on duty since 1979. Hours later, a second assault killed two CIA contractors. Requests for more security had been made by the American representatives in Libya to the Clinton State Department for months prior, but they were ignored. “But what difference does it make now?”
This shows again why she is not fit to be President. If she has a place to fill, the more fitting venue would be a prison cell, lest we not remember who she really is.
IS SHE OR ISN’T SHE?: The nations’s largest lesbian power group has announced it’s full support for Candidate Clinton for 2016. This will only serve to revive the long-held speculation that Hillary is a closet lesbian. When Jenny McCarthy asked that same question on The View last year, she was fired. So, is she or isn’t she? ‪#‎Lesbians4Hillary‬ ‪#‎ReadyForHillary2016‬http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=32459
And in case you have forgotten all the other bodies this witch has left in her wake……Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan
Banned Hillary movie – edited…

Hillary lies

A quote from Killary:

“My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I’m glad you asked! My proudest accomplishment in Which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know… the remnants Of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have Overlooked the bigger picture and we didn’t do that and I’m proud of that. Very proud. I would say that’s A major accomplishment.” – Hillary Clinton – 11 March 2014

Killary is clearly a circle-talking, Leviathan spinning, deceptive self-promoting, self-serving, power hungry, stayed married to a womanizing, cheating, perverted, it depends what ‘is’, is Slick Willy. And while she ‘says’ that she stands for and promotes woman’s rights, she’s attacked, harassed and terrorized the women that her husband had affairs with, seduced and even raped.

http://conservativeamerican.org/the-hillary-clinton-lies-list/?hc_location=ufi 

Facts about Hillary from Dick Morris:
Thank you to all contributors…

 

One Evil Human…

FROM STEVE KROFT – CBS News (of TV program 60 Minutes) with additional info from Ann… 

This article begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress)

If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is “selective” in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible. He controls President Obama’s every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this. You won’t regret it.

Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet, and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don’t think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama’s reluctance to accept help on the oil spill, you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US .

“In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it:” Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in two days. Here is what CBS’ Mr. Steve Kroft’s research has turned up. It’s a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States:”  George Soros

George Soros is an evil man.  He’s anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good. He killed and robbed his own Jewish people. What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values (whoremonger/womanizer) and a sociopath’s lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way and loves to do social engineering and change cultures.

György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born  August 12, 1930 in Hungary . Soros’ father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz’s, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s

When Hitler’s henchman, Adolf Eichmann, arrived in Hungary to oversee the murder of that  country’s Jews, George Soros ended up with the man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds. (Never forget what Soros really is)

Soros has repeatedly called 1944  “the best year of his life.”  70% of Mr. Soros’s fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect. During an interview with “Sixty Minute’s” Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about  his “best year.”

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

SOROS: Yes. Yes.

 KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors. 

SOROS: Yes. That’s right.  Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?

SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I  rather enjoyed it.

KROFT: No feelings of  guilt?

SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute  power.

In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having carried some rather “potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.”  Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper’s  death in 1994 Two of Popper’s most influential teachings concerned  “the open society,” and Fallibilism.

Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about that.)   The “open society” basically refers to a test-and-evaluate approach to social engineering. Regarding “open society,” Roy Childs writes, “Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper’s advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess.”

In 1956, Soros moved to New York City, where he worked on Wall Street and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation.  Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on  his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for “The American Thinker,” she says, “Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England. He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight.”

In 1994 Soros crowed in The New Republic that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history.” The “Soros Empire” indeed!
In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia . At the time, Malaysia ‘s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called  Soros “a villain, and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.”

The website Greek National Pride reports, “Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine and Myanmar [ Burma ].
Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience, a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”

France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2  million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary ‘s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.

My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach.  But what about America? Soros told Australia ‘s national newspaper, The Australian, ” America , as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that “the time has come for a very serious adjustment in American’s consumption habits.”  He implied that he was the one with the  power to bring this about.

Soros: “World financial crisis was “stimulating and, in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama’s largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Pet rob ras).

(Soros with his ex-girlfriend, a Brazilian actress who sued him for broken promises)

Tait Trussel writes, “The Pet robras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil , but it is a bad deal for the US .  The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the US could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence.

A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch. com. Its mission: “This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial  pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without  conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world’s poor, that justice will be served.”

Back to America . Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous.”  In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His “open society is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements.”

Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book “The Shadow Party” outlines in detail how
Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.

Discover The Networks. org  (another good source) writes, “By his [Soros’] own admission, he  helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia and Yugoslavia. When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a ‘shadow government’, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to  assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.”

November 2008 edition of the German magazine “Der Spiegel,” in which Soros  gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U.S.) should do after taking office: “I think we need a large stimulus package.” Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said that “I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence.  The U. S. needs a cap-and-trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights.”

Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, as he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr.

In late 2006, Soros  bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that’s five billion dollars) to the  Democratic National Committee to insure Obama’s win as well as wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-Americans.  Socialist. George has been contributing a billion dollar- plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene.

Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to.  In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM.

Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soros’ NEMESIS.

As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”

Richard Poe writes,
“Soros’ private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues undermining America ‘s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control,  globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering.”

Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance , Media Matters for America , the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America ), La Raza and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks.org <
http://discoverthenetworks.org/> .

Poe continues, “Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia.”

Without Soros’ money, would the Saul Alinsky’s Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?

America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros.

Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America — and his puppet, Barack Obama, is leading the way. 

Soro’s has five children, heirs to his ‘legacy’… Andrea Soros Colombel and her husband, Eric are very good friends of the Clintons…She is hooked into charities with Bill Gates, Buffet, Oprah, the Clintons, etc … in other words… they are all in it together… alittle bit of good and a whole lot of something else…   

George Soros, the billionaire financier, is handing more control of his money management firm to two of his sons ( he may not care about the families of the masses, but he certainly takes care of his own, ‘his heirs’)
Robert, Andrea, Jonathan, Alexander, and Gregory, as he continues to scale back the focus of his investment firm. Mr. Soros disclosed that he was promoting one son, Jonathan, to be a deputy chairman of the firm, Soros Fund Management, sharing the title with another son, Robert, who was named chief investment officer last month. Mr. Soros remains chairman of the firm, which manages $12.8 billion. Copyright Hudson Valley News His son, Alexander is gaining prominence in social and political causes. So, while promoting Socialism/Marxism for the rest of the world. Soros is insuring that his heirs carry on.

Capitalism is good for Soros, but for most all others, he wants Marxism.

According to The Hudson Valley News, tents have gone up at Astor Courts in Rhinebeck, New York, the likely location of Chelsea Clinton’s wedding this weekend to financier Mark Mezvinsky of Goldman Sachs. The newspaper has also filled in questions about where the Clintons will supposedly be staying. Former President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will be accommodated at Glenburn, the home built for John Jacob Astor IV, American millionaire businessman who perished in the sinking of the Titanic. The mansion is currently the Rhinebeck home of Eric and Andrea Colombel. Andrea Colombel is the daughter of billionaire financier George Soros, a long-time Clinton supporter.

Soros is backing the Wall Street Protestors… Gee, I wonder why? A man who makes fortunes off of trading and his whole family and ‘friends’ are in on it…

The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?  Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”

Thoughts….?